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UserID: Peter H Type: CurePVCs Joined: Nov 01 2017
Thread Started: Nov 01 2017 Last Post: Jul 29 2018 Last Post By: Peter H
Origin: General Topics Total Posts: 8

How I (Mostly) Cured My PVCs with Magnesium Taurate and Dietary Changes

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Posted Nov 01 2017#1 of 8
Peter HUser Since: Nov 2017Posts: 12I'm 47 and my heart began having PVCs six months ago.

The PVCs increased and for four months I began having what I thought were preliminary heart attack symptoms:

1. Dull pain in the chest that would come and go, lasting for 15 minutes to an hour
2. Tingling numbness radiating into my left arm and left leg
3. Very minor pains shooting into my lower jaw
4. Minor flu-like feelings of congestion in the chest, "burning lungs"

I occasionally felt a bit of nausea and a little bit short of breath, but unfortunately, the panic of feeling like you're are about to have heart failure makes you feel nausea and shortness of breath, so it was difficult to tell what was a "real" symptom.

The phone app that measures my heartbeat (Cardiograph) clearly shows the PVCs when they are occurring. An app I downloaded that detects atrial fibrillation (Photo Afib Detector Pro) at first didn't detect anything, but then began showing "Warning Afib Detected" with some regularity, especially when I could feel PVCs occurring. This did not make me feel good!

I'm on an HMO and my Primary Care Physician (PCP) was totally useless. He had no idea what to do. I was repeatedly told: I don't see anything wrong, but call 911 if you feel like you are having heart failure.

I went to the emergency room twice over a four month period, thinking I was about to have heart failure, and was hooked up to an EKG both times. On each occasion I was told nothing was wrong.

Through persistent harassment of my PCP I finally got referred to a cardiologist, who performed:

1. A Running EKG Stress Test
2. Hand-held echo-cardiogram (not a real one, but close)
3. Two Holter monitor tests, one worn for 48hrs and the other for 1 week.
4. A chest x-ray

The cardiologist said he saw the PVCs but did not see any Atrial Fibrillation on any test. He said my heart was sound and he could not see anything wrong with my cardiovascular system. He stepped away from the problem completely. He said the PVCs were "benign" and prescribed metroprolol to calm my heart if I had an "episode" of PVCs.

As everyone who has PVCs knows, they do not feel benign, and can kick off symptoms that feel like cardiac arrest warnings. They also, for me, caused a major decrease in energy levels. I felt like my energy got turned way down once they started.

During all of this time I was reading forums like this one, so I began experimenting with my diet, since that has been successful for others.

Thinking what I had was related to acid reflux, I began attacking the problem as if it were a gastrointestinal problem, not a cardiovascular problem. I also had kind of high cholesterol for some reason, even though I'm 6' and only 175lbs. So my plan was:

1. I began drinking a shot of Apple Cider Vinegar every morning (in water).
2. Elimination of all flour and flour products, grains and grain products, and oats and oat products.
3. Eating healthier and less fatty foods. Fruit smoothies with yogurt for breakfast, chicken and salad for lunch. Lean red meat. Basically a "Paleo" diet.
4. Reducing alcohol and caffeine to minimal levels (1 coffee and 1 drink per day)

By doing the above, I got the PVCs mostly under control. I still had them (especially at night) but I could function. I think acid reflux and the Vagus Nerve (or whatever) is a big part of the problem. My energy levels were better, but still not great.

During this time I also began experimenting with taking Heart Calm (Magnesium, Potassium, and Taurine) three times a day. Heart Calm is roughly 100mg magnesium 33mg Potassium and 333mg Taurine per pill. When I started taking Heart Calm I noticed a big, sudden improvement. PVCs lessened considerably and energy levels went back up.

So I then experimented further by switching over to Magnesium Taurate 400, which per pill is only 100mg magnesium taurate. I took four pills a day, at 8am, 12pm, 4pm, and 8pm. The Magnesium Taurate 400 had the same -- if not more -- improvement over Heart Calm, almost totally eliminating the PVCs.

The daily influx of 400mg magnesium taurate is so good I abandoned the apple cider vinegar without ill effect. I can also drink coffee or tea a couple of times a day, and have even had a few drinks. However, alcohol and caffeine definitely "fan the flames" of PVCs, so I have to watch out! I got drunk a few weeks ago and my chest/heart felt bad for days afterwards.

So to sum up, what has worked for me to almost totally eliminate PVCs and get my energy levels back up:

1. Elimination of all flour and flour products, grains and grain products, and oats and oat products.
2. 100mg magnesium taurate four times a day, for a total of 400mg.
3. Eating healthier and less fatty foods. Fruit smoothies with yogurt for breakfast, chicken and salad for lunch. Lean red meat. Good stuff only!
4. Reducing alcohol and caffeine.

I've considered putting flour/grain/oats back into my diet to see what happens, but once I went off them my bad cholesterol levels went down and I lost weight (back down to 160lbs). Combined with lifting dumb-bells three times a week, people are telling me I don't have a beer belly anymore, so I've left the flour/grain/oats out of my life for a while.

I hope you find what's ailing you. If you are having these things, get back to a stripped-down healthy diet and then start troubleshooting the problem by adding stuff like apple cider vinegar, magnesium, and potassium. Experiment by taking things away, like flour products, grains, and oats. Find your center and stay there when you find it!
Posted May 14 2018#2 of 8
bigpuddingdogUser Since: May 2018Posts: 1did you ever notice that an increase in alcohol helped to halt the PVCs? i was at a point where they were happening 5-10 a minute. As soon as I started drinking, they mostly stopped, an occasional one here and there. When I got to about 3 or 4 drinks, they had subsided. Makes me think that anxiety is solely to blame but now I'm on metoprolol XL and still having tons of them per day.
Posted May 21 2018#3 of 8
bfrocks30User Since: Apr 2018Posts: 25

QUOTE:
did you ever notice that an increase in alcohol helped to halt the PVCs? i was at a point where they were happening 5-10 a minute. As soon as I started drinking, they mostly stopped, an occasional one here and there. When I got to about 3 or 4 drinks, they had subsided. Makes me think that anxiety is solely to blame but now I'm on metoprolol XL and still having tons of them per day.



I really dont think alcohol will halt pvcs if anything it will cause them to flare up more, at least it always did for me.

Posted May 29 2018#4 of 8
SiennaUser Since: May 2018Posts: 24

QUOTE:
I'm 47 and my heart began having PVCs six months ago.

The PVCs increased and for four months I began having what I thought were preliminary heart attack symptoms:

1. Dull pain in the chest that would come and go, lasting for 15 minutes to an hour
2. Tingling numbness radiating into my left arm and left leg
3. Very minor pains shooting into my lower jaw
4. Minor flu-like feelings of congestion in the chest, "burning lungs"

I occasionally felt a bit of nausea and a little bit short of breath, but unfortunately, the panic of feeling like you're are about to have heart failure makes you feel nausea and shortness of breath, so it was difficult to tell what was a "real" symptom.

The phone app that measures my heartbeat (Cardiograph) clearly shows the PVCs when they are occurring. An app I downloaded that detects atrial fibrillation (Photo Afib Detector Pro) at first didn't detect anything, but then began showing "Warning Afib Detected" with some regularity, especially when I could feel PVCs occurring. This did not make me feel good!

I'm on an HMO and my Primary Care Physician (PCP) was totally useless. He had no idea what to do. I was repeatedly told: I don't see anything wrong, but call 911 if you feel like you are having heart failure.

I went to the emergency room twice over a four month period, thinking I was about to have heart failure, and was hooked up to an EKG both times. On each occasion I was told nothing was wrong.

Through persistent harassment of my PCP I finally got referred to a cardiologist, who performed:

1. A Running EKG Stress Test
2. Hand-held echo-cardiogram (not a real one, but close)
3. Two Holter monitor tests, one worn for 48hrs and the other for 1 week.
4. A chest x-ray

The cardiologist said he saw the PVCs but did not see any Atrial Fibrillation on any test. He said my heart was sound and he could not see anything wrong with my cardiovascular system. He stepped away from the problem completely. He said the PVCs were "benign" and prescribed metroprolol to calm my heart if I had an "episode" of PVCs.

As everyone who has PVCs knows, they do not feel benign, and can kick off symptoms that feel like cardiac arrest warnings. They also, for me, caused a major decrease in energy levels. I felt like my energy got turned way down once they started.

During all of this time I was reading forums like this one, so I began experimenting with my diet, since that has been successful for others.

Thinking what I had was related to acid reflux, I began attacking the problem as if it were a gastrointestinal problem, not a cardiovascular problem. I also had kind of high cholesterol for some reason, even though I'm 6' and only 175lbs. So my plan was:

1. I began drinking a shot of Apple Cider Vinegar every morning (in water).
2. Elimination of all flour and flour products, grains and grain products, and oats and oat products.
3. Eating healthier and less fatty foods. Fruit smoothies with yogurt for breakfast, chicken and salad for lunch. Lean red meat. Basically a "Paleo" diet.
4. Reducing alcohol and caffeine to minimal levels (1 coffee and 1 drink per day)

By doing the above, I got the PVCs mostly under control. I still had them (especially at night) but I could function. I think acid reflux and the Vagus Nerve (or whatever) is a big part of the problem. My energy levels were better, but still not great.

During this time I also began experimenting with taking Heart Calm (Magnesium, Potassium, and Taurine) three times a day. Heart Calm is roughly 100mg magnesium 33mg Potassium and 333mg Taurine per pill. When I started taking Heart Calm I noticed a big, sudden improvement. PVCs lessened considerably and energy levels went back up.

So I then experimented further by switching over to Magnesium Taurate 400, which per pill is only 100mg magnesium taurate. I took four pills a day, at 8am, 12pm, 4pm, and 8pm. The Magnesium Taurate 400 had the same -- if not more -- improvement over Heart Calm, almost totally eliminating the PVCs.

The daily influx of 400mg magnesium taurate is so good I abandoned the apple cider vinegar without ill effect. I can also drink coffee or tea a couple of times a day, and have even had a few drinks. However, alcohol and caffeine definitely "fan the flames" of PVCs, so I have to watch out! I got drunk a few weeks ago and my chest/heart felt bad for days afterwards.

So to sum up, what has worked for me to almost totally eliminate PVCs and get my energy levels back up:

1. Elimination of all flour and flour products, grains and grain products, and oats and oat products.
2. 100mg magnesium taurate four times a day, for a total of 400mg.
3. Eating healthier and less fatty foods. Fruit smoothies with yogurt for breakfast, chicken and salad for lunch. Lean red meat. Good stuff only!
4. Reducing alcohol and caffeine.

I've considered putting flour/grain/oats back into my diet to see what happens, but once I went off them my bad cholesterol levels went down and I lost weight (back down to 160lbs). Combined with lifting dumb-bells three times a week, people are telling me I don't have a beer belly anymore, so I've left the flour/grain/oats out of my life for a while.

I hope you find what's ailing you. If you are having these things, get back to a stripped-down healthy diet and then start troubleshooting the problem by adding stuff like apple cider vinegar, magnesium, and potassium. Experiment by taking things away, like flour products, grains, and oats. Find your center and stay there when you find it!



Hello Peter

How are things young with the pvcs?Hope they vanished!!
I am starting having the supplements and i hope will be better!!
Posted Jun 09 2018#5 of 8
PVCHelpUser Since: Jun 2017Posts: 9Hi Pete,

Great post!

Why does the Paleo diet work? Is it a wheat allergy? Or is it the low carbs, low processed sugar?

Do you eat a lot or rice (so it is not the low carbs, it is a wheat allergy?)

I have been on a whole30 diet, and found significant improvements, but I am also doing other things. Not sure which worked. Whole30 eliminates wheat, dairy and beans. Wheat in the US is desiccated with atrazine, GMO or hybridized from what people ate in the past. I think it could be the wheat.

Thanks!


Posted Jul 29 2018#6 of 8
Peter HUser Since: Nov 2017Posts: 12I actually first noticed my PVCs while I was drinking. However, now that I've got them under control, I don't get them immediately while drinking, I get them in the days that follow *if* I drink a bit too much. I think this loops back to the fact that PVCs can be caused by an electrolyte imbalance/shortage. I believe that is the case for me. Alcohol leeches electrolytes from your system, just not immediately. Since alcohol slows your heart rate (like metroprolol) you may think it is having a beneficial effect, but if your PVCs are tied to electrolyte imbalance, I don't see how alcohol can improve PVCs in the long run. I think if I didn't drink alcohol ever I would get fewer PVCs. I've proved this to myself by quitting alcohol for weeks at a time. When I lay off, I get fewer PVCs. Whenever I drink, I get PVCs while lying in bed waiting to go to sleep.

Posted Jul 29 2018#7 of 8
Peter HUser Since: Nov 2017Posts: 12

QUOTE:
Hi Pete,

Why does the Paleo diet work? Is it a wheat allergy? Or is it the low carbs, low processed sugar?

Do you eat a lot or rice (so it is not the low carbs, it is a wheat allergy?)

I have been on a whole30 diet, and found significant improvements, but I am also doing other things. Not sure which worked. Whole30 eliminates wheat, dairy and beans. Wheat in the US is desiccated with atrazine, GMO or hybridized from what people ate in the past. I think it could be the wheat.

Thanks!



Laying off flour/wheat/oats and all flour/wheat/oat products and going Paleo (so to speak) has certainly helped me. However, not knowing exactly what is causing my PVCs, it's difficult to draw conclusions. I believe my PVCs are caused by an electrolyte imbalance but they also seem to be tied to digestion. Meat and vegetables are very easy for my body to digest, and when I'm only eating meat and vegetables and keeping myself "taught" by not eating too much, my PVCs subside as long as I'm taking regular magnesium and iron supplements. If I stuff myself with bread/rice/pasta I get acid reflux and my PVCs flare up, and it then takes days of light Paleo eating to get back to normal. These things are weird!
Posted Jul 29 2018#8 of 8
Peter HUser Since: Nov 2017Posts: 12

QUOTE:


Hello Peter

How are things young with the pvcs?Hope they vanished!!
I am starting having the supplements and i hope will be better!!





My PVCs are under control. I've since arrived at the following:

1. 400mg magnesium taurate and 65mg iron per day.
2. No more than two drinks per night.
3. Meat & vegetable diet. No flour/wheat/oats. Easy on the dairy.
4. Remember to drink water.
5. Lay off coffee/tea after 12pm.

That's it. I get a little bit of heart kaflumping at night as I'm going to bed, but I'm convinced that's because of the two drinks.

Potassium supplements did nothing for me and neither did Vitamin D. Drinking low-sodium V8 with a couple of bananas in the morning did not have a beneficial effect over just eating a couple bananas and drinking water or orange juice. I eat a light breakfast. I can drink coffee/tea no problem, but if I drink too much coffee during the day I get some kaflumps, so I lay off coffee after 12pm and drink water instead.

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