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UserID: Winenut Type: CurePVCs Joined: May 05 2013
Thread Started: May 05 2013 Last Post: May 21 2018 Last Post By: Sienna
Origin: General Topics Total Posts: 25

PACs/PVCs might be related to Electrolye Imbalance - Too Little Potassium

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Posted Dec 20 2014#11 of 25
LoveBeatsUser Since: Feb 2014Posts: 9Botox, Dysport, any dermal filler, can cause PVC's.

Posted Dec 20 2014#12 of 25
tverdeyUser Since: Jan 2014Posts: 9Try a Standardized Hawthorne Herb Extract. Give it 6 - 8 weeks...
Posted Dec 25 2014#13 of 25
alfy12User Since: Oct 2013Posts: 22I have tried Hawthorne extract and it didn't work for me. I ride my bicycle most days between 15 and 40 kms. I find that exercise keeps my pvcs at bay. I might have a couple of ectopic beats when my heart rate increases but rarely after that. During my rides I rarely get any ectopic beats and I feel great afterwards for hours. I do find that strenuous riding has the opposite effect. I believe it causes inflammation of the heart which promotes ectopics. I would advise most people to stay within a safe target heart rate range when exercising. Im 47 so exercise in the 115 to 140 range works best for me. I have pushed myself up steep hills and this higher heart rate has an adverse effect.

Posted Dec 27 2014#14 of 25
LisaGHUser Since: Sep 2014Posts: 30WineNut ~ Thank you for this wealth of information. To date, I haven't tried anything (supplements or Rx) to help alleviate my PVCs. I have found through my research that magnesium and potassium continue to come up over and over again. I want to try potassium, but there are two issues. (1) I am allergic to fruit, so eating several bananas a day (which sounds like the easiest way) is not an option for me, (2) my BP is and has always been, on the low side. It's usually around 110/70 or so. In your post you stated the following ~ " Note that lack of Potassium can also increase your blood pressure...sometimes quite a bit. So if your blood pressure is low, becareful". This confused me. If lack of potassium can increase ones blood pressure, then what you are saying is that in my case, adding in extra potassium can lower my bp, and since it's already low, this is a concern. Correct?

This is all so frustrating.

Thanks to everyone who posted a reply post to WineNut's original post. They were all very helpful as well.

Lisa
Posted Jul 28 2015#15 of 25
Joanne Moscati KazistaUser Since: Jul 2015Posts: 1Hi Steve,
I am actually doing a little research for my daughter, She is a pediatric nurse and only 23 yrs old. She has been battling with PVCs for some time now. She has been to a cardiologist who doesn't seem concerned about them. She knows exactly when they are happening and most times they become almost debilitating. Being a nurse she has hooked herself up to a monitor several times while they are happening and the average is about 46-50 times per minute that she has them. She is fed up as I am with the doctors who don't seem concerned and only want to give her a beta blocker. She is way to young for that. She is a healthy 23 yr old who is 5'7", weighs about 145 lbs, low to medium blood pressure and eats well. Works out when she can at the gym too. She takes a multivitamin daily and birth control. The PVCs happen for days at a time and at all different times of the day. They have even woken her up at night they are so bad. What I am asking is I have been reading the magnesium and potassium seem to help but I don't know how much she should be taking and what kind and how many a day. Can you help us please. Thanks, JJKAZ
Posted Aug 31 2015#16 of 25
kats410User Since: Aug 2015Posts: 1

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Hi Steve,
I am actually doing a little research for my daughter, She is a pediatric nurse and only 23 yrs old. She has been battling with PVCs for some time now. She has been to a cardiologist who doesn't seem concerned about them. She knows exactly when they are happening and most times they become almost debilitating. Being a nurse she has hooked herself up to a monitor several times while they are happening and the average is about 46-50 times per minute that she has them. She is fed up as I am with the doctors who don't seem concerned and only want to give her a beta blocker. She is way to young for that. She is a healthy 23 yr old who is 5'7", weighs about 145 lbs, low to medium blood pressure and eats well. Works out when she can at the gym too. She takes a multivitamin daily and birth control. The PVCs happen for days at a time and at all different times of the day. They have even woken her up at night they are so bad. What I am asking is I have been reading the magnesium and potassium seem to help but I don't know how much she should be taking and what kind and how many a day. Can you help us please. Thanks, JJKAZ




Hi Joanne,
You remind me of my mother. She was very concerned about me when I started getting PVCs at 25. I'm now 29. She suggested that I go see a nutritionist because she believed it had to do with my diet and gut health (digestion). She was right.
I believe my PVCs were caused by a few things: stress, anxiety, bad diet, and no exercise, which in turn affected my digestion and, as Steve mentioned, caused an electrolyte imbalance.
After seeing a cardiologist and getting the same news as your daughter, my mom decided to take me to a nutritionist. Best decision ever.
Please consider taking your daughter to a nutritionist. If her cardiologist says she’s clear, then finding a nutritionist for advice would be best. I'm sure they can advise what would be a safe amount to start off with.
I don' t think there is a specific regimen that cures PVCs. Everyone is different, so you have to go through trial and error.
For some people magnesium, potassium will help and for others taurine and arginine will do just the trick, or in my case a simple detox cleanse.
For me, I'm discovering that it was my digestion not functioning correctly. I just had a gut feeling (no pun intended). My bowel movements were weird (sorry if this is TMI) I probably had undiagnosed IBS. I would have occasional diarrhea or constipation. The color of my stool was weird at times. I was bloated almost every day and would burp a lot every single morning. Perhaps I also had Gastritis.
Our digestion has so much to do with our health. If it’s not functioning properly, then we are not absorbing the important nutrients from our food that help our organs function correctly. In our case, our heart is just not beating normally as it should.
My nutritionist started me off with a detox system kit. This kit is a powder and a liquid that has to be mixed with 8oz water. I drink it everyday 30 minutes before I eat my meals. From what the label says it has the following ingredients…
Powder mix has: Lactobacillus and Calcium citrate (other ingredients: hard gelatin capsule, rice flour, magnesium)
Liquid mix has: Aloe Vera, vitamin c, chlorophyll in, magnesium chloride, potassium chloride (other ingredients: purified water, menthol)
I’m also taking one pill of Omega 3-6-9 with every meal I eat.
This has helped my digestion dramatically!! I am no longer bloated. My bowel movements are back to normal. Stool looks normal, and it’s so easy to “go”. No constipation or diarrhea. I have more energy, and I can focus. And guess what, PVCs ARE GONE!!! After 4 years of dealing with this horrible curse, I feel like I’m back to my normal self. So far it has been a week with no PVCs. And even if one or two occur, it wouldn't matter because it wouldn't compare to having them every minute of everyday!
I have to admit; I was losing hope and was getting depressed because I thought I had to deal with these things for the rest of my life. Thank God my mom never gave up and took me to a nutritionist.
Not sure exactly what made them go away, but it sure had to do with what I’m taking. Also, changing my diet, removing stress, and exercising have helped dramatically as well.
My advice to you: Take your daughter to a nutritionist and ask for supplements to do a detox. This will help her digestion. From there, you can start taking other supplements so they will be absorbed correctly.
She needs to de-stress by exercising and she needs to eat healthier (if she’s not already)
Don’t lose hope! There are natural cures for PVCs I am a firm believer.

Posted Jan 23 2016#17 of 25
Darryl HoogstrateUser Since: Jan 2016Posts: 1I've intentionally been consuming lots of sodium to improve a condition I have named POTS Syndrome. The sodium (and other treatment) is working but after six months of high sodium my PVC/PACS started increasing. After reading your post I upped my Potassium intake seven days ago and am noticing a marked improvement of my PVCs/PACs. I'm drinking coconut water, tomato juice, eating beans, leafy greens, meaty fish and bananas. if this improvement continues, it will dramatically improve my life. The balance of my electrolytes may very well be the cause of the PVC's/PACs I've been fighting for years. Thank you for sharing your post above!
Posted Sep 18 2016#18 of 25
nordmanUser Since: Sep 2016Posts: 2

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Currently I'm taking 3-4 99mg pills 4 times days...with great results...particularly at night. If you drink wine or alcohol, beware that it will leach Potassium (and lots of other minerals) from your body. And when I do indulge, I take extra Magnesium and Potassium.

I started out slow...taking only about 500mg per day extra (spread out). And helped. But to prove I was low, after months of doing the 500mg, I cut it out completely...and boy did I notice the missing Potassium. My PACs and PVCs (which were mostly under control by that 500mg) came back almost as severe as they were. I let that go for several weeks...and it got progressively worse. Then I added back the Potassium...and within days, I was back to mostly under control. But it was not perfect...which was reason for that test. And so I slowly increased the dose...taking care to watch for symptoms of too much Potassium. Currently I take about 1500mg-1600mg of Potassium Gluconate (in hard pill form) per day. And more on days when I go wine tasting. Though less those days I eat Halibut.

Steve




Hi Steve,

Thanks for sharing this with us.

I did have a question, though.

I am aware that most Potassium Gluconate pills come in 450-550mg tablet form (with a net Potassium content of 99mg per pill, due to U.S. regulations).

You said early on that you take 3-4 99mg tablets four times daily (1600mg total).

Then later you said you're taking 1500-1600mg total. Just to clarify, you're still taking pretty much the same dosage, right?

So if I were to take the same dosage as you using my 550mg pills, I'd take 16 pills daily (8800mg total, with 1600mg net potassium).

Thanks again for your post!

N-


Posted Oct 22 2016#19 of 25
CruisenalUser Since: Jan 2014Posts: 2Try potassium bicarbonate powder.

Posted Jul 18 2017#20 of 25
sharinthevisionUser Since: Jul 2017Posts: 1Steve I can't thank you enough. I just had an expensive lession in PVC's and the sad state of our medical community over the weekend in the hospital. After reading your post I am up at 5am with new hope. I want to shake your hand.
Thank you I'm in awe .
Sharon
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