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UserID: Cubsfan3 Type: CurePVCs Joined: Apr 01 2013
Thread Started: Apr 03 2013 Last Post: Apr 11 2013 Last Post By: PVCMan
Origin: General Topics Total Posts: 16

This site is giving me hope

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Posted Apr 03 2013#1 of 16
Cubsfan3User Since: Apr 2013Posts: 28I am 43 and have had PVC's for about 25 years. The last 2 years have been really bad. I will have them all day long for months at a time. Right now I am in month 3 of a brutal bout with them. I have read PVCman's story on how low stomach acid was the cause and how the ACV pretty much cured them. After reading his story I realized I may be suffering from low stomach acid as well. I have always had gas all my life. I could clear out a room of people with no I also have this "burning" feeling in my stomach as soon as I would wake up on some mornings. I dismissed it as being hungry. The pain would usually last for about a half hour. And although it has not happened in a while I would get really bad heartburn for periods at time for no reason at all. I would cut out all spicy foods and it would still bother me. In doing some research we lose digestive enzymes as we get older. That would explain why my pvcs has become worse. I am very anxious to start taking ACV. I have nothing but optimism that this will help me. I cannot believe it took me so long to find this website. Thank you to everyone.
Posted Apr 03 2013#2 of 16
AndyRewUser Since: Nov 2009Posts: 22Hi Cubsfan3,

I also (as many sufferers do) think there is a link between gastric trouble and heart PVCs/Arrhythmias.

My Mum as always taken medicines for heartburn, and although it works well to start with, it always gradually returns. Now she has so many food allergies, especially the ability to eat onions. If she eats onions, she will be violently sick and with diarrhea and close to feinting.

She never used to be like this, it's after years of taking meds to stop heartburn. I am convinced she would benefit from taking ACV, but I think ACV takes time to work and I don't think she perseveres long enough.

As far as heart arrhythmias are concerned, I agree with what PVCMan said in that I think it take a a little time for things to settle down especially if PVCs are the result of electrolyte imbalances.
Posted Apr 03 2013#3 of 16
Cubsfan3User Since: Apr 2013Posts: 28I left this out of my original post but I have supplemented with magnesium the last 2 days and it this may be the issue (knock on wood). I took 375 mg yesterday at around 11 a.m. Within about an hour the PVCs went away until about 6pm. before I went to bed I took another 200mg and an hour later they were gone. I was able to get a good nights sleep. When I woke up the PVCs started right up but not real bad. I took 375 mg at 7am and by 9am they have almost completely disappeared. The electrolyte theory makes so much sense looking back over the last few months. I have increased my workout level, focusing on alot of cardio. I guess I just assumed drinking water after a workout was good enough. In addition, I got away from eating foods that were rich in magnesium (mainly leafy greens). It makes so much sense that I would be deficient in magnesium. I just picked up some electrolyte tablets and will be using them on a regular basis. Hopefully this does the trick.

Posted Apr 04 2013#4 of 16
PVCManUser Since: Oct 2009Posts: 228Hi Cubsfan3,

This is really interesting stuff.

What type of magnesium are you using? I have heard various people report various levels of progress with different types.
Magnesium citrate seems to be one of the most popular.

I am planning on a profiling facility for this site, and information like this could be really useful to others.
Posted Apr 04 2013#5 of 16
Cubsfan3User Since: Apr 2013Posts: 28I am using magnesium citrate. To add to my last post, my pvcs started up again after eating dinner last night. Around 9pm I took about another 200mg of magnesium and they were gone within minutes. I was able to get a good nights sleep. This is the most optimistic I have ever been about getting rid of these things. I am trying not to obsess over them but that is easier said than done. They are on my mind all day, every day;even when I am not having any. I know that the stress of worrying adds to your adrenaline level which in turn leads to more pvcs. I am just looking forward to the day when they go away which I know they will. They always do. I had 9 months of peace last year without them. Let me ask a question here. I have also noticed that when I wake up in the morning I can lay in bed for as long as I want without them but as soon as i get up they start within minutes. Any idea why that is?
Posted Apr 04 2013#6 of 16
PVCManUser Since: Oct 2009Posts: 228Although I have not had this trouble with changing position, I have heard many talk about changing positions can be the difference between having PVCs and not.

I have previously read several pieces of information about the vagus nerve, and although I can't recite all of the information off the top of my head, I do remember this: Aggravation of the vagus nerve often leads to a reduction in heart frequency, blood pressure or both. This can be the result of gastrointestinal illness such as viral gastroenteritis or acute cholecystitis.

I have no doubt this all ties in with other gastric disorders and PVCs.

I know what you mean about being anxious about them even when you're not having them. It's like you know they might come back at any time. At least that's how I used to feel. It's probably half the trouble, but similar to what you said, the anxiety is very difficult to just dismiss.

Posted Apr 04 2013#7 of 16
Cubsfan3User Since: Apr 2013Posts: 28If I get to a point where I can go a few days in a row with only a few then my anxiety level drops way down. I no longer obsess about them and I resume living my life again. I am determined to find the casue of mine. It's great that they are harmless (had all the tests) but there is something causing the electrical impulse that causes the extra beat. Unfortunately my cardiologist told me to avoid stress and caffeine and put me on a beta blocker (which I quit taking a year and a half ago).
I really enjoyed reading your personal story. It has given me hope that these can be managed. I bought some ACV yesterday and I am not sure I can take it after smelling it. Is there any other supplement that would aid in absorbing the vitamins and minerals from foods like ACV does?
Posted Apr 04 2013#8 of 16
PVCManUser Since: Oct 2009Posts: 228I admit ACV is not what one would call palatable...

Some people mix it with water and baking soda, but I prefer to just swig a shot and chase it with a drop of water or milk. But you're right, it's not the most pleasant smelling or taste!

Also, be careful not to "gulp" it down, because you don't want to get it stuck on your larynx and choke on it.

As far as alternatives are concerned, apparently it is possible to get HCl tablets (hydrochloric acid). I have never taken them and am only mentioning it here because I have heard of other using them. The good thing about those tablets, is its like swallowing any other gel-coated tablets which are tasteless.

I'm just not sure the average doctor would buy into the proposition that a lack of acid is the trouble (if you know what I mean).
Posted Apr 05 2013#9 of 16
Cubsfan3User Since: Apr 2013Posts: 28Just wanted to post an update. So yesterday morning I took 350mg of magnesium as soon as I woke up (6am). I had a few pvcs on the drive to work but nothing serious. At noon I had an electrolyte drink. Around 2pm or so I had a few pvcs but again, nothing serious. While I was eating dinner I had about 5 pvcs which was way less than the night before. I focused on chewing my food alot more (sounds silly) and it seemed to reduce them. I did some reading on the vagus nerve last night and learned that it runs through the stomach. Therefore, when you have digestion issues the nerve becomes aggravated and sends out an extra impulse for the heart to beat resulting in a pvc. I had another electrolyte drink at around 10pm. All in all I consider yesterday a pretty good day. I would say in total I had between 30-40 pvcs in all. That is down tremendously from the ones I had earlier in the week. I'm hoping and praying that I continue to see progress.

Posted Apr 08 2013#10 of 16
PVCManUser Since: Oct 2009Posts: 228It certainly seems like you are making some progress.
I to hope you continue with this success. I know what a fantastic relief it is to start getting somewhere.

But please remember, if you get the odd relapse, it doesn't mean it's failing again. I still get some re-occurrences sometimes, but they are normally short lived.
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